Raymond Monret
 Paris,  
Hi all,

I updated the French translation in Transifex. Could someone be so kind as to push it into the code repo?

Many thanks

@Hubzilla Development+
Raymond Monret
  
Can someone give me access to the github repos (user rmonret) so I can push the modified hmessages.po and hstrings.php to view/fr? I also created a symlink for fr-fr pointing towards fr, some browsers only use fr-fr by default.
Mike Macgirvin
  
You've been added.

Andrew Manning
  
Four months ago, @Gab and René Röderstein crafted Hubzilla plugins for hosting and for playing WebTorrents on the grid. WebTorrents are a way to share files using BitTorrent that loads completely in the browser. It is impressive technology and I am disappointed that we haven't done anything with these community contributions yet. WebTorrents are the only practical way I see at the moment to decentralize video streaming/sharing.

@Hubzilla Development+
Beni Grind
  
I think it rather the UX than the UI that let's the masses gravitate towards Mastodon and less Hubzilla. I think the Hubzilla UI is awesome. It gives you a lot of possibilities to achieve different thing. The pity is that this comes with a learning curve that's steeper and longer than what the average user is willing to put into a new software. The amount of time users put into learning to use software converges toward 0 anyway.

I don't think there is a way to make a complex tool as Hubzilla as simple and easy to use as Mastodon.
giac hellvecio
  
+1 Beni
dvs1
 
"the masses gravitate towards Mastodon" because there was a HUGE wave of promotion a few months ago. In the whole history of Hubzilla there hasn't been half the promotion as seen in a single day for mastodon.

An article by mashable was partly responsible.

"Bye, Twitter. All the cool kids are migrating to Mastodon."
and (amusingly) 2 days later
"Six reasons Mastodon won't survive" (and 2 other articles)

"As of November 2015, it [mashable] has over 6,000,000 Twitter followers and over 3,200,000 fans on Facebook."

-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mashable

"Pete Cashmore [mashable's founder] was also crowned by INQ as the most influential Briton and most influential Twitter user in the world in 2009."

-> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Cashmore

As long as they have "the clown" and other "celebs" on Twit**r
their traffic won't be significantly hurt by mastodon.

The sharing frenzy hit Diaspora hard, and some people took the bait.
I didn't see any mashable articles about Hubzilla,
but they were apparently kind enough to promote Diaspora.
"Kicked Off Twitter, Islamic State Flocks to Diaspora"
LOL

Oh yea.. and "The Verge" posted an article about mastodon the same exact day (4/4/17)
as mashable's first article. That's another potential 15 million according to wikipedia.
Jeroen
  last edited: Sun, 13 Aug 2017 07:29:35 -0400  
@!Hubzilla Development+ @!Hubzilla Support Forum+ How do I prevent those '/usr/bin/php Zotlabs/Daemon/Master.php Deliver' processes consuming that much system resources. Load average goes to ~40-50 with a normal load average of  ~0,35. Sometimes and only for ~5 min those processes makes Debian my VPS very slow. I already have set 'memory_limit = 32M' in /etc/php5/cli/php.ini. Is there something I can do in Hubzilla?
Jeroen
  
Thanks @Mike Macgirvin , I will play with these settings.
Jeroen
  last edited: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:19:58 -0400  
Still problems. I see the processes are delayed, but now MariaDB ìs using a lot of CPU's + I also have Notifier processes adding load.

Edit: Now the Delivery processes are back. Tens of them.
Jeroen
  
Doesn't seem related indeed.
Andrew Manning
  
Some high-profile, non-community member recently said:
Software sort of needs to a community to evangelise it.

which reminded me of our weekly article series that highlights the myriad features Hubzilla offers. So far a few of us have contributed some articles on Medium but we have not, to my knowledge, shared links to these articles on other websites (Twitter, Facebook, Mastodon, Diaspora, whatever is likely to reach people). If you have, excellent! Let us know where you did. I am personally terrible for this because I don't have accounts on any of these social networking platforms; I think I'm trendy because I use Medium to publish the articles...

In any event, we need a volunteer to either write an article or contribute ideas and screenshots to help compose one this week.

@Hubzilla Development+
Sean Tilley
  
I want to start writing more on decentralized technologies again soon, and I'd like to dive into the depths of Hubzilla at some point. It remains a hugely interesting subject to me.
Andrew Manning
  
It would be appealing to the nerds of the world if there were some technical articles about how Zot works and what decentralization is in concrete terms. Such technical articles would enable more people to understand the underlying technology in Hubzilla, which is itself a separate problem. We can sneak those kinds of articles in after we get some more feature highlights.
Andrew Manning
  
The introduction to Zot in https://project.hubzilla.org/help/developer/zot_protocol#Technical_Introduction is pretty good if you read it slowly and carefully. This can definitely form the basis for a more coherent and accessible article introducing a technical audience to how Hubzilla works. Usually the graphics and visual aids slow me down when I write something like this, but perhaps I can just draw images on my tablet to depict the concepts since this is an article that would not require screenshots. Sometime hand-drawn images make things more comfortable and less intimidating.
Beni Grind
  
@Hubzilla Support Forum+  @Hubzilla Development+

Hey all,

A few questions regarding 2.6RC and CardDav integration in core:

Where did the documentation of the correct caldav/carddav end point go? I remember looking this up on the plugin page.

Secondly, where do I activate caldav access for a certain channel. The Android app doesn't accept any of the possible end points I tried.

Thanks!

Beni
Andrew Manning
  
Haha, okay. Is it possible for use to run another hubchart site or mirror it someone? I never looked into how that actually works.
Mario Vavti
  last edited: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 03:30:46 -0400  
@Paolino created it and has opensourced it somewhere... IIRC it is a java application...
Beni Grind
  
@Mario Vavti Awesome, now it works! Thanks for your help!
Andrew Manning
  
On my dev hub (2.7.0), "Import public streams" is off in the /admin/site settings page, yet I occasionally see a notification popup in the nav bar with a globe icon (I've personally never see this before) and following the link shows me a /pubstream page with lots of, well, imported public stream content. Should I add this as an issue on GitHub?

@Hubzilla Development+
giac hellvecio
  
#bug
Mario Vavti
  
Should be #fixed
Andrew Manning
  
Did we lose the ability to preview mail messages in #2.6RC? A regression perhaps?

@Hubzilla Development+
Mario Vavti
  
This should be #fixed
Einer von Vielen
  last edited: Thu, 03 Aug 2017 08:56:07 -0400  
There seems to be a kind of competition in fixing things fast between certain devs here ;-)

Mario Vavti
  last edited: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:24:01 -0400  
If you installed Hubzilla via git and running master branch, you are only a git checkout 2.6RC away from the latest and greatest Hubzilla ever. Do not forget to also update git checkout 2.6RC the addons (yes i am looking at you :nerd:).

Please help us test this RC (especially install, upgrade and core components) and provide feedback in form of bugreports or pull requests on issues you might find. Also testing of addons/plugins is highly appreciated.

You can follow the progress of RC testing in this wiki. Keep in mind that the wiki is not yet complete. Please PM me for write-access if desired.

For the changelog please have a look at the git history for now.

A condensed summary will follow with the version 2.6 release announcement.

Happy testing!

@Hubzilla Announcements+  @Hubzilla Development+
Mario Vavti
  
That should be #fixed now @Beni Grind
Beni Grind
  
@Mario Vavti Thank you! I'll give it a try after this weekend.  I wont be able to pull before then.
Mario Vavti
  
So far all known issues in RC branch have been ironed out. Let's hope it stays that way so we can release at the beginning of next week :grin:
Andrew Manning
  
The interface in the screenshots is already out-of-date, but it's mostly still relevant info. Maybe it will reach a few people and get them interested in Hubzilla. @Hubzilla Development+

Getting started with nomadic identity — how to create a personal channel on Hubzilla

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Hubzilla is an advanced platform for online communications and content publishing powered by a decentralized identity and permissions…

Andrew Manning
  
Here's the latest in our weekly Hubzilla feature articles. If you see any errors or have any criticisms, please voice them so we can make these better over time. Also, we need to find a way to spread these articles on other media as well. I'm just banking on Medium being hip and trendy and likely to reach an audience that would be receptive to Hubzilla.

@Hubzilla Development+

Use a Hubzilla wiki to make collaboration easy and private

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Pretty much everyone knows what a wiki is by now because of Wikipedia, arguably the biggest success story of the web. The beauty of a wiki…
Haakon Meland Eriksen (Parlementum)
  
The article is well written, but after stating that everyone knows what a wiki is, quite a bit of the article is spent on explaining what it is and how it is used by Wikipedia and GitHub, with illustrations of both. I think you are right, most people who care do know what a wiki is because of Wikipedia and it is nice to remind people there are other use cases like GitHub. Moodle has one too for classroom use. However, I think the article will be even better if you shorten the introduction - assume they know, and then spend more time developing what sets the Hubzilla wiki feature apart for writers, perhaps introduce some simple personas, Alice, Bob, Carol and David. Alice is an interior decorator who needs to privately share notes with her customers, Bob and Carol, and creates a wiki for each customer's project. Carol is so pleased she can see her progress online at the office, while Bob and David, who are into Feng Shui want a balanced home.

  • Choose between BBcode or Markdown formatting
  • etc  
  • etc


Keep up the good work! :-)
Andrew Manning
  
Thanks for the feedback! I modified the introduction to explicitly not assume that the reader knows what a wiki is exactly or what it can do for them. I think we can make a second, complementary article demonstrating some of the details with the fictional characters like you suggest. I'm trying to keep these articles relatively bite-sized so that people don't get overwhelmed with information. These are primarily advertising pieces in my opinion instead of in-depth tutorials. It's why I'm almost obnoxious using the name "Hubzilla" over and over so it gets stuck in someone's mind. The nice thing is that we should be able to remix a lot of this generated content for other purposes such as detailed tutorials we can put in the doco.
Beni Grind
  
Speaking of the wiki: (Sorry, a bit off-topic) I can't edit the wiki on my Android phone. Is this a general problem or is this specific to my phone?

Andrew Manning
  
It's not a very clean update, but the latest version of the Hubzilla project webpage hosted at project.hubzilla.org is available for import on your channel using tag v8. I added a language menu that uses a new feature Mike added a while back but is still only in dev branch of Hubzilla. I would appreciate some help polishing the CSS so the menu and such looks better. Pull requests welcomed.

https://github.com/anaqreon/hubzilla-website/tree/v8

@Hubzilla Development+
kris
  
I should work again in the french translation. But this is not translation of hubzilla. Not sure if I understand. one day I started translation of help page but ... All was lost the system changed and now all is in english again. You have to work with git and this is my weakness.
Raymond Monret
  
I read that weblate has a more direct integration with git than transifex. Maybe we could try that out?
Andrew Manning
  
The webpage translations are much simpler mechanically speaking. Just take the base English page and translate the content (leaving the HTML code alone), and then share that with me somehow. You can do it directly on GitHub by editing that file in the browser and it will allow you to submit a pull request for a "patch" even without knowing any git. Or you can download it and share the translated file in Hubzilla using the cloud file system, or you can post it as a code block in a standard post, whatever you are comfortable with.
Andrew Manning
  
Does anyone want to contribute an article for our weekly series? I might have time to put something together this weekend.

@Hubzilla Development+
Andrew Manning
  
Also I added the article to the Feature Articles wiki and moved each article to its own page.
Haakon Meland Eriksen (Parlementum)
  
No need for credits, thanks for doing these articles, Andrew.
kris
  
All these articles are for me. Cause today I did a sync between nextcloud and outlook with my calendar. I remember having trying the same thing with hubzilla without success.

Mario Vavti
 
If your hub is on dev branch and you have the Diaspora addon with the Statistics addon enabled, update your hub (core and addons) ASAP.
See the related issue: https://github.com/redmatrix/hubzilla/issues/831
Mario Vavti
  
Bump.

Please UPDATE addons and core ASAP if on dev branch.

It's me
 
I think this flies in the face of conventional wisdom for security. Instead, the new hub should make a request to the old hub, and the user should have to go to the old hub and accept the request to clone the channel, perhaps also providing email + password for security.
Andrew Manning
  
Also it is possible to import the channel using a channel data file exported from the original hub. The original hub does not even need to be online when you upload the file to the new hub.
It's me
  
sorry if this came across aggressively heh
Mike Macgirvin
  
Not at all.

Andrew Manning
  
Here's what I have so far for the nomadic identity article. It's not comprehensive, but I am striving for something that doesn't require a long attention span.

Feedback is welcome. I'll publish some version of this on Medium.com and maybe we can find a way to coordinate posts linking to it on other social networks like Diaspora, Twitter, GNU social, Mastodon, etc.

@Hubzilla Development+
Andrew Manning
  
I just did a test using the same dev hubs (running v2.4.1) I used for the article, where I uploaded those images to the hubzilla.dev cloud files. A minute or so later, most of those files have appeared in the beta.dev clone's cloud files. So some media sync is working. I'm sure Mike has detailed all this in posts and the hub help pages and the git log but I'll have to search to find specifics.
Mario Vavti
 
There was a bug regarding media sync which has been fixed not so long ago...
Mike Macgirvin
  
We're currently cloning media as it is created.

Bulk loading media to a new clone is still an issue we can only solve with plugins or client side processes. It's almost impossible to do it with a json dump file. The redfiles addon may need to be updated for Hubzilla, but I used it to clone all my redmatrix photos and files - so that's a workable solution.
Haakon Meland Eriksen
 Nomadic,  
@Hubzilla Development+ I pulled and in the admin panel I can see database update r1191 failed, but upon inspecting install/update.php all tables seems to have been created, so do I really need to worry?
Alex
  
Haakon Meland Eriksen
  
Ah, thanks. Now what?
Mario Vavti
 
so do I really need to worry?

No

Andrew Manning
  
I've been trying to build a self-contained dev environment using Vagrant, because it should not be necessary to have a bunch of live hubs bound to real domains online in order to develop Hubzilla. We've discussed this some in the past.

I keep encountering problems due to self-signed certificates. The first of course is the installation step, where you cannot proceed if using a self-signed cert. To get past this I used a "sed" command in the Vagrant provisioning script that bypasses this check. Now I am unable to connect channels because of the same issue (see log output below). @Mario Vavti and @Mike Macgirvin , what do you think about integrating some kind of configuration option for "offline mode" or something that you would maybe specify in the .htconfig.php file that would bypass all the self-signed cert checks? I haven't investigated the details but I assume it would just be some "if" statements in a few key functions like "z_fetch_url".

@Hubzilla Development+


2017-07-08 12:31:31:LOG_INFO:j1krnmqabrpsvp5ujcs0hnovd5:network.php:1554:webfinger_rfc7033: fetching url from resource: hubzilla.dev:admin@hubzilla.dev
2017-07-08 12:31:31:LOG_INFO:j1krnmqabrpsvp5ujcs0hnovd5:network.php:176:z_fetch_url: z_fetch_url: error: https://hubzilla.dev/.well-known/webfinger?f=&resource=acct:admin@hubzilla.dev&zot=1: SSL certificate problem: self signed certificate
2017-07-08 12:31:31:LOG_INFO:j1krnmqabrpsvp5ujcs0hnovd5:network.php:1712:fetch_xrd_links: url: https://hubzilla.dev/.well-known/host-meta
2017-07-08 12:31:31:LOG_INFO:j1krnmqabrpsvp5ujcs0hnovd5:network.php:176:z_fetch_url: z_fetch_url: error: https://hubzilla.dev/.well-known/host-meta: SSL certificate problem: self signed certificate
Mario Vavti
  
Not sure if this was discussed before but why use SSL at all?
Andrew Manning
  
For some reason I thought there would be more complaints from the software if I didn't use HTTPS, but if that's the solution then perfect. I'll try it out.

1. cd /root; bash hub_restore.sh hubzilla.dev.conf 1ca3db38
2. ???
3. Profit!
Mike Macgirvin
  
I spin up throwaway http test servers all the time. It's also pretty easy to run a standalone http instance off localhost and it's basically functional but network interactions aren't possible. You need to bind to a domain if you want to test interactions between two instances or versions.

neue medienordnung plus
  last edited: Sat, 08 Jul 2017 15:11:59 -0400  
Hubzilla – introduction, possibilities, Hubzilla community, 27:55 min - at LVEE 2017 , 06/24/2017
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Hubzilla – введение, возможности, Hubzilla-сообщество. Bottom - s. "Видео"-Section -> http://0x1.tv/20170424C  after 2 min ist soundquality good.

@Hubzilla Development+ @We Distribute+ @Zot universe NEWS+  #LVEE2017 #LVEE #Grodno #hrodna #belarus #weißrussland
giac hellvecio
  
maybe we can do default=3 ;)
Mario Vavti
  last edited: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 09:44:28 -0400  
Sure, and then after another 3 months we could default to 4 :wink:
giac hellvecio
  
I think 3 is  good . >3 sounds as spam

It's me
 
This happens when a channel is on the same server or another server.
 bugs
Andrew Manning
  
So,  it displays the connect button when it does not have the source in its own address book, which is the case for first connection.

Ah, this makes a lot of sense. I forget the extra challenges associated with decentralized networks sometimes. There is a workaround at least, which is that you can manually enter the deleted connection's channel name into the Add new connection box on the https://project.hubzilla.org/connections page to recover the connection. But yeah, we should have some kind of button that always displays if there is a logical way to do it.
Andrew Manning
  
There's a lot of discussion in the w3c social communities about how to implement this for other protocols such as activitypub and ostatus. There are also some clever ideas emerging, and I've been waiting for the dust to settle before tackling the problem in a way that works across the board and across project boundaries.

You wouldn't happen to have any links to some of these discussions handy, would you?
Mike Macgirvin
  
It's me
 
Hi,

I think the default channel privacy modes of 'Restricted' and 'Private' should only allow accepted friends to see your profile. What are your thoughts?
Mike Macgirvin
  
Most folks using these privacy modes traditionally have a basic public profile with nothing in it, and then a second profile only visible to friends which has useful information. It's a toss up which is the better way of doing this.